Bitching Post

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  • Aw, damn... I didn't see this post before I replied to the other. Just a troll...

    ChininMyHands 03/23/2017  2:54pm

    *convincing-ly

    💅

    nycharliebrown 03/23/2017  3:44pm

    I'm one of the lucky ones that can swing both ways.. as does this post.

    I hate when I see straight guys unconvincingly play gay characters.

    BariToxic 03/23/2017  10:10pm

    My thoughts? I've found gay can more often convincingly play straight than straight can convincingly play gay.

    Showbizdreamer 03/23/2017  11:15pm
  • When you get "invited" to an open call... 03/23/2017  11:34am

    Why is this even a thing? Why can't you actually give appointments? Nothing feels like a bigger let down than getting an email saying you've been invited to an open call. I can't even think of a good analogy (like being invited to a buffet, but that doesn't really work). I guess it's worse to NOT be invited to the open call....but still. #bitchout

    alwaysabridesmaid

    i got one of these yesterday and was excited til i saw the breakdown. couldn't be more WRONG for the show lol.

    openspace14 03/23/2017  12:16pm

    Probably the same one as me, lol, and I too, am WRONG. And knowing many people who had already signed up, they are also WRONG. Sigh. This season, man.

    alwaysabridesmaid 03/23/2017  12:17pm

    Was this for Baz or for something else?

    Actually about signupgenius in general, what are these calls I'm "Invited to"? Which I never see until I log in to it, and I don't log in unless there's something to sign up FOR. And then yesterday for the first time I got an email from signupgenius saying I'm "Invited" to Baz. I've NEVER gotten an email generated from signupgenius before inviting me to sign up for anything...does anyone else find this weird?

    Showbizdreamer 03/23/2017  12:32pm

    was it actually an invitation? like do you think the CD went through our emails to invite us?

    dontnobodywantno 03/23/2017  2:59pm

    I don't know, I thought about that too. I literally can't remember the last time I auditioned for a project they were casting. I thought maybe a friend thought I was right for it? I'll take the job though!

    divadinnah101 03/23/2017  4:02pm

    They invited people before the call went up on Playbill, so basically they want to see you and wanted to make sure you got a spot before the call went wide. I'd just be happy to be included.

    Smactor 03/23/2017  4:19pm

    This is what I'm not understanding...WHOS inviting us? The casting office/Andrea or signupgenius? I've been "invited" via what I THINK is signupgenius but it literally showed up under "sign ups You've been invited to" on my account page. It's always shown up out of nowhere. But this (if we're talking about Baz), is the first time I've gotten an EMAIL about it. It strikes me as a generated email form signupgenius. But I'm wondering about how I get "invited" anyway...do Joy and Andrea keep track of who shows up consistently and they somehow find us on signupgenius to invite us?
    I hope I made sense...

    Showbizdreamer 03/23/2017  4:32pm

    I mean, that email was TECHNICALLY from signupgenius' site so...is it generated by them or something Andrea sent out herself THROUGH signupgenius? I mean, I'm glad I got..."invited" (I still find it weird to call it that...it's an open call) cause this thing sounds like a jam, butnim just curious at to how it actually works?

    Showbizdreamer 03/23/2017  4:35pm

    Mine came to my email as "Stewart/Whitley Auditions"

    Smactor 03/23/2017  8:08pm

    I was "invited" but I'm totally wrong for the Baz thing so I didn't sign up. I would love to know if they consciously send it to specific people (and if so, why me?!) or if it's a general email list.

    eroseb 03/23/2017  8:11pm

    ^^^That's basically what I was trying to ask, except I use too many words. If it's a specific list, how'd they find us?? #bigbrother

    Showbizdreamer 03/23/2017  8:59pm

    I just figured Stewart/Whitley just notified anyone who had signed up for their calls in the past. I don't think they actually made a list of people to invite, especially bc it seemed last minute being Monday and all.

    readytobeloved 03/23/2017  10:03pm
  • How do I come back from this? 03/23/2017  12:19am

    SO LONG RANT/QUESTION, I recently went in for an EPA for a straight play. It was classical. I'm an actor first. I forgot my entire monologue about three lines in. Just, completely gone. This isn't something that happens to me. EVER. So I stop, I apologize and ask if I may start again and they're super kind and they're like "yeah sure whatever you need!".

    So I start one more time. GONE. Two lines in just gone. To give a back story, I'm trained. I've been doing this monologue for years. Maybe there's too much going on, maybe it was exhaustion. I apologized again, and the CD said it was ok and asked me if I was okay and if I wanted to talk about it? LIKE WHAT? The CD and the director (yeah both in the room fucking shoot me) told me that regardless of what was going on I was professional and seemingly a lovely actor and there was no way I was allowed to leave that room feeling bad about myself. Thank god that kind people still exist (I still ugly cried for 30 minutes in the Pearl bathroom though).

    But here's the thing. This audition has been haunting me and I know I should just let it go because everyone has that really bad audition. It happens. But the CD said she was going to keep my stuff on file for something that was "more right for me". And whether thats true or she just said it to make me feel better about myself, is she going to remember me the next time I audition for her as the girl who couldn't remember her monologue, twice? And does she think I don't know my type? Am I going in for the wrong stuff? Does she think I'm just young and stupid and haven't learned yet? Like guys, this audition mind-fucked me in all sorts of ways.

    March has been the worst. I can't wait for it to be over so I can stop going "Maybe I should audition for Mama Mia".

    freezeyourbrainatEPAs

    I think you're sitting on a golden opportunity to forge a long-term connection and relationship with a CD. Follow up with them right away. Thank them profusely, and let them see that you're unfazed, and that everything they said about you (professional, lovely) was true. Show them you've got a sense of humor, and you know that all actors have bad days.

    Seriously, don't waste this. :-)

    Sid Solomon, AEA Eastern Principal Councilor - #SIDforAEA 03/23/2017  12:58am

    Sid, thank you for the suggestion! I think that's a wonderful idea. Do you think a postcard is the most efficient form of follow up?

    freezeyourbrainatEPAs 03/23/2017  1:11am

    I really wouldn't worry about it too much. I went up on the lyrics to a song twice in an audition once. Felt terrible at the time, but the only lasting consequence is that I didn't book that particular job. I think casting directors remember much less than we might think. There was a casting director who had called me in/back for four or five projects before saying to me one day "I didn't know you could belt" (that's, like, what I do). Unless you had a very well established relationship with this CD I would bet they won't remember by the time you go in for them again.

    ladyinwaiting 03/23/2017  1:18am

    This exact thing happened to me a month or two ago! The CD was super cool about it but I was mortified and it threw me into a total funk. I wrote an email right afterwards and a little while later I got an email asking me to audition at their call next year so who knows?

    kitt 03/23/2017  9:51pm
  • Palace, Wisconsin Dells 03/22/2017  1:29pm

    Anyone have any info on this place?
    Pay? EMC offered?

    CuriousParadox

    they have a bad track record of nonpayment. proceed with caution.

    openspace14 03/22/2017  1:57pm

    People weren't paid?
    How does this happen?
    I'd take them to court.

    CuriousParadox 03/22/2017  2:26pm

    honestly, it is very complicated. bc of what i do for my "day job" i know alot about this place and others like it. i've worked with (not for) him and it is not good. but, i'd run.

    openspace14 03/22/2017  2:36pm

    and there isn't a chance in hell they offer EMC knowing what i know about them!

    openspace14 03/22/2017  2:39pm

    I worked there recently and have ALL the feelings and words. Too many to put on here. You can email me at thisisathrowawayforthepalace@gmail.com if you like.

    basicNAB 03/22/2017  2:41pm

    i'll also add #mobties

    openspace14 03/22/2017  2:51pm

    I worked here a few summers ago and had a very positive experience! I did not have any issues with being paid at all. beautiful theatre

    Broadwaygirl1202 03/22/2017  5:01pm

    but does it give emc?

    CuriousParadox 03/22/2017  5:08pm

    I don't think so. It didn't when I worked there

    Broadwaygirl1202 03/22/2017  5:29pm

    They paid us on a 1099 (which is illegal for the type of job we were doing) and so we owed a butt-ton of taxes the next year on the wages we made.

    Also we usually did shows for about 50 people in a dinner theatre house that sat 750.

    #gigatyourownrisk

    PattiJMcDonald 03/23/2017  5:18pm

    It's a non union house so they cannot offer EMC points.

    littleeagle 03/23/2017  8:58pm
  • NAB: Investigation Discovery-type shows 03/23/2017  12:15pm

    You know the ones. The dramatizations of true crime, etc. What do we think of taking these jobs in terms of how it will affect one's career? Is it comparable to doing extra work? (No disrespect to extra work, I just know that in a business sense it is not always the best kind of work to do, depending on what trajectory you want for your career.)

    Am I overthinking this? Is this a decent, respectable credit for a non-union actor who has little to no footage?

    xoxo

    lacomedienne

    I think if you get cast in one, do it. It could be great reel footage, and some of those CDs cast bigger & better projects so it can be great in relationship building with that CD. It also gives you a chance to work on a set and get used to what that's like, so when you do start to book union work, you'll be pro AF. Also, I've looked at the sign in sheets in previous auditions for these, and some of these appointments are from agents, not just AA.

    Glamron 03/23/2017  2:36pm

    Oh and to answer your question- no it's not extra work, it's a principal tv credit. And once in a while a few of these jobs are union- I became SAG-eligible from doing "Maury" - the shoot was a bunch of re-enactment scenes of the person appearing on the talk show.

    Glamron 03/23/2017  2:38pm

    I feel like every new york actor has done one of these at some point. I did one once shortly after moving to the city. In my opinion it's only worth it if you are new to the scene, need some money, and it's a lead role. The only footage I could use were some shots that I used to have at the top and end of my reel just cause I looked nice on their crazy good camera. But I didn't get any good shots of scenes or anything. However, I did get paid to go do some acting and that was nice. Don't worry about it affecting you negatively (unless they want you to get naked and then make sure you are comfortable); no one will care that you ever did it except your grandma. I left it on my resume but it's at the bottom and I certainly don't talk it up.

    crashtheparty 03/23/2017  2:39pm

    Thanks for the insight, guys!!

    lacomedienne 03/23/2017  3:23pm

    Just did one of these yesterday & I would say good to do if you're new to on camera work & want footage, etc. Especially if you're a lead or featured role & have scenes with dialogue, etc.

    YouKnowYouKindaLoveAndrewLloydWebber--Don'tHate 03/23/2017  4:37pm

    Honestly... do a little research - before applying, find an episode online - if they have longer segments with actors talking, might be worth if for your reel - I got some good footage from doing them but a few were enough for me :)

    emuhe 03/23/2017  4:45pm

    Yeah, wouldn't want to do them ALL the time. I'd probably do another one if I had a big role with a lot of dialogue, etc. Yeah, some of them are probably more worth it than others. They can often be very long days for a small amount of money, etc.

    YouKnowYouKindaLoveAndrewLloydWebber--Don'tHate 03/23/2017  5:43pm
  • NAB -- who LOVES their agents? 03/23/2017  1:06am

    I want to know who are the agencies with very happy clients. If you love your agent, would you mind sharing their names? I'm particularly interested in knowing who can get you into the rooms you want to get into. Thank you!

    CuriousGeorge

    Or, even if they're not your agents, who has a great reputation?

    CuriousGeorge 03/23/2017  1:09am

    I do! I love my agent-I'm with LDC Artist Representation. Lucille has gotten me into many doors and I feel like she throughly represents me in the way I want to be seen!

    goldengirls27 03/23/2017  9:18am

    PARADIGM IZ GOOD I THNK

    Fatniss_Neverlean 03/23/2017  10:33am

    DOES FATNISS TAKE UNSOLICITED SUBMISSIONS?!

    GeneralKnowledge 03/23/2017  10:53am

    Me me me! I'm with Cynthia Katz at Gotham Talent and am thrilled with her. We have developed a great communication style over the past seven years and tend to be on the same page when it comes to most projects.

    As for "getting me into rooms," I think that's as much (if not more) the actor's job via cultivating relationships with casting directors. It has not been my experience or observation that having an agent is the key factor in getting seen, unless you are ~exceedingly~ cookie-cutter and you need the extra status indicator in the form of an agent to make yourself stand out.

    thejollyraja 03/23/2017  4:46pm
  • When non-Broadway performers act as if they're in that community 03/23/2017  2:40pm

    Enough said

    We all known those people. They go to openings, teach class, hang out with all Broadway people to make themselves feel like they are one of them & they always have the vaguest bios/never specify where they did a popular bookshelf as a non eq.

    Webber8282

    **book show

    Webber8282 03/23/2017  2:40pm

    Hahahha hahahaha this is gonna be good

    littleeagle 03/23/2017  2:44pm

    I'm sorry, you are upset about somebody doing something that doesn't effect you? And those things being:
    1. Prioritizing their attendance at important events of celebration of the thing they love, which are also often great networking events.
    2. Finding ways to make income doing what they love.
    3. Having successful friends.

    I think you should focus on WHY this bothers you and work on yourself...

    ChininMyHands 03/23/2017  2:53pm
  • What does it all mean? 03/23/2017  2:00pm

    sometimes this job drives me literally crazy!

    I had a pretty good callback last week...like one of those callbacks

    and as I was getting ready to leave he literally picked apart every credit on my resume and talked about what he liked and finished with "ok you have my email, please please email me right away if you get another offer that conflicts with this show"

    what does it all mean? did he say that to all people to help him from wasting time casting someone who will turn it down? did the callback go as well as i thought and it will potentially turn into a job?

    all i know is that they for sure have more auditions next week and we were told casting would happen after that, but it hasn't stopped me from checking my email every 14 minutes.

    who wants to grab a drink? or go painting? or bowling...literally anything :p

    nycharliebrown
  • NAB: DreamMaker Talent Management 03/17/2017  2:31am

    Any info on them. How are they?

    First hand insight?

    Thanks :)

    luvtoperformyall

    I just signed with them a couple months ago. Have gotten me into the room for a few projects I wouldn't have been able to otherwise... but they have a lot of people and aren't able to work with you much on a one on one basis.

    Bwayluver 03/18/2017  8:48pm

    I'm no longer with them but they got me into the room for principal roles in Book of Mormon and School of Rock as well as various SAG TV shows.

    03/18/2017  10:11pm

    Bump

    freezeyourbrainatEPAs 03/22/2017  11:50pm

    $25 application fee... like... is that even legal?

    emuhe 03/23/2017  12:50pm
  • NAB - Infinity Theatre Company Acting Internship 03/17/2017  11:25pm

    Hi!
    Infinity Theatre Company's not on Gig & Tell, so figured I'd ask here:
    Anyone work as an acting intern at Infinity Theatre Company, and what was your experience?
    Thanks in advance!

    Duane Reade

    I haven't worked there, but my friend has! She reeeeeaaaaaalllyyyyy liked it, and she actually got to be a lead in one of their summer shows! She's now EMC too thanks to Infinity. Her experience was definitely amazing.

    pilotseason 03/18/2017  11:13pm

    Bumping! Have you heard anything from them? I had a callback and a follow up callback after Strawhats, and I'm dying to work with them. Haven't heard anything though.

    ktlady623 03/23/2017  12:49pm