Audition Update is moving. Click here to learn more.
  • Motivation Plz 08/11/2018  8:58pm

    Hi Guys. Here's the thing... I've been living here for 8 months. I graduated college and made the big move. I had a senior showcase experience at college (which I did well during) and unfortunately did not get signed. I got a "muggle" job to pay my bills, but I'm slowly starting to wonder... is this big city for me. With no agent, no equity card, and very limited doors for opportunity. I start to stress. I'm 23. I'm working my BUTT off trying to do this and I'm watching young girls step out of high school and land huge roles on bway. I don't want to leave this city. I don't want to give this up. I have put too much time, tears, effort into this crazy thing we do. I'm watching friends from college that moved here... move home because things aren't happening for them and I start to wonder... Is this what my life is going to be..? Needing motivation. Needing recommendations on where to get in front of agents OTHER than actors connection. Needing someone else to tell me... I'm not the only one who's struggling. I don't post on here ever but I feel like I'm drowning and there's no one near to save me. xoxo


    Growing Studio has a great agent showcase class!

    youngscrelter 08/11/2018  9:00pm

    You are not the first and will not be the last to feel like this. Hold on and push through. Not many people are cut out for this business. Ask yourself if you gave up now, would you regret it? Stay strong. Your dreams may not happen tomorrow, or the next day, or the next year. But have faith in yourself and stay confident in your dreams. Surround yourself with those that support you and your dreams and find every instance you can to perform and get your creative juices flowing. I believe in you.

    blueroses 08/11/2018  9:55pm

    8 months at 23 years old? Not nearly enough time to make that decision. This business is weird. I’ve been here 7 years and when I first moved here I was booking things left and right, BIG things. I thought I would for sure be on broadway soon. But 7 years later, and I’m just now even starting to get broadway appointments and callbacks. And the girls I was beating out parts for at the beginning have already made their broadway debuts. Moral is, everyone has their own timing and plan. Stay in your lane and don’t try to race the cars driving next to you. Enjoy the ride 😊

    Cantstopwontstop 08/11/2018  10:39pm

    At the risk of sounding patronizing, have you gone on an audition yet? If not, the best thing would be to go to your first EPA/ open call with a friend, just to get a sense of what it’s like and not feel so completely overwhelmed. Otherwise, I agree actors green room, and Primary Stages offer good classes (the latter not great for audition technique, frankly, but teachers are great and well established). At your age, I would also look into apprentice/ fellowships, then you might at least come back to nyc with some EMC points. I came to nyc in the same shoes (as did many others), and if I’m not still quite where I would like to have been by now, I did get work and EMC points through perseverance, and so will you.

    ToFormAMorePerfectUnion 08/12/2018  9:01am

    The girl you are talking about has about 10 years of experience in acting / MT, a long resume, tens of online videos of her performances in cabarets, shows and theater camps. She had been taking classes for years, had done some stuff in NY before (readings, etc.), and if I am not mistaken had had her equity card since she was 13 or so ( not 100% sure about that last bit of information, but think so). She is extremely talented and had an amazing voice / range since the very young age. Therefore her getting this broadway show wasn’t a big surprise. I don’t know her personally, but know of her for a long time. You haven’t mentioned if you had any pre-college experience, and if so, how many years aside from college have you been in the business. I know of many more teens / young adults who are younger than you are who have between 2 and 5 Broadway shows on their resumes, and did not go to college. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with luck and everything to do with the fact that they all have been around since the age of 7-8 and have years of training and experience to get them to the place they are at now. And some of them I do know personally. Instead of getting discouraged and feeling upset, keep working on your craft and audition as much as you can.

    WinWin 08/12/2018  10:03pm

    Been doing this as a Union pro for 40 years, so have experience of all kinds of incredible highs and soul-destroying lows. When feeling especially hopeless, I allow myself a quiet smile and quote Wilde: 'Persistence is the last refuge of mediocrity'.

    Then I go on.

    Best wishes.

    Ron Gielgud 08/13/2018  8:31am

    Hey girl. I posted something super similar on this page a few months ago, and that was the height of my "I'm in NYC, post-grad, and literally not booking anything" phase. I was going to sleep crying almost every single night because I felt like such a huge failure. I'm almost 25, and graduated 2 years ago. But I'm realizing so much more now that, other than the 10% of people who get really really lucky right out of high school or right out of college, the 90% without that amazing luck do have to go about it the marathon way. I wasn't prepared / was naive in thinking I wasn't going to be a "marathon" person. And the slowness of it truly, genuinely surprised me. And hurt me.
    But I think the hurt is a really, really good thing. It means you want it so badly. It means you'll stay in it, even when it really sucks. And sometimes it really does. Not even being able to AUDITION...Getting turned away from EPA after EPA... I never expected it.

    I have to tell you, I finally just decided that I needed to take a break and go home for a month, just to figure out who I am, hang out with the friends and family who believed in me when I was a kid, and just re-ignite that flame. Right before I left I just shrugged and submitted my material to a few different agencies. I had a huge cloud hanging over me, and being home helped. And in the middle of my trip, I booked a meeting with a big agent. And we're now freelancing together.

    But this is literally after 2 years of nothing. Small small small off-off-OFF Broadway gigs, absolutely nothing to shout to social media about. I felt, and do continue sometimes to feel, so bad about myself.
    But I am realizing that it's literally just a business. I go to these workshops and I truly barely see ANYONE who is untalented... And some of the people I perceive as the most talented are the ones not booking. I thought when I was in school that success in the real world would be determined by how hard I worked and how much I cared. But it's not about that at all. As I'm sure you know. And it's exhausting.
    In NYC we have to go go go, 100% of the time; if we're not working at our day jobs, we're home submitting. Spending all our money on classes and workshops and the only way it feels sustainable, to me, is if we're happy. And not being able to work or audition makes me feel so depressed. I just want you to know -- I am in your exact same position and it is SO hard but I promise you, if you stick it out, small things will start to happen. And one day maybe the big ones, too. I can only send you love and tell you to keep trying. Take as much time for yourself as you need, and do it for the kid you were at summer camp when you were so in love with theatre and just knew you'd get everything you wanted someday. I think about that little girl I was all the time. And it totally does help. Hang in there.

    4329 08/13/2018  4:48pm

    I'm in tears. Honestly. Thank you everyone. Your words and stories are simply amazing. With so much negativity in this business these 5 or 6 comments make me smile. They make me keep going. They remind me of why I started. I don't know any of you... but I thank you from the absolute bottom of my heart. I wish you all the best of luck. You are ALL stars on and off stage. Good things happen to good people... Thank you for being good to me. Lots of love. Thank you truly.

    5679 08/13/2018  6:58pm

    I just want to chime in to agree with what everyone else has said. I don’t think we are ever adequately prepared for what this business demands. I remember hearing everyone talking about how hard it is and “if you can do anything else, do that.” But that only made me more determined. And when I realized what that REALLY meant I was blindsided. I ultimately did give up, and got a full time job, which nothing wrong with that, but I wasn’t doing it because I was truly done with the business but because I was scared and didn’t believe in myself. I took a long break, almost 5 years, and just recently came back to it. I realized that the only person holding myself back was me. Obviously it takes a lot of dedication, being in the right place at the right time, etc, but I think more than anything that belief in yourself. And the support system to help you in moments of doubt. Honestly, your early and mid 20s are such a difficult time no matter WHAT business you’re in. So be super gentle on yourself. I also recommend The Artist’s Way to bring back some joy in creativity to your life. Sending love!

    hermionegranger 08/14/2018  9:05am

    My advice is to find a way to make this life sustainable for yourself. Because here's the thing, you aren't just sitting around waiting for someone to "discover" you. You're growing as an artist and a person as you weather this disappointment and continue to audition and find your way. And if you keep your mind on that self-improvement, the right doors WILL open for you. If you can figure out how to make your life in NYC sustainable, even enjoyable, then you can sit back and do your work until that opportunity comes along. It sucks to feel like you're failing because you aren't working up to your own standards, but listen to what other people here have said and trust that things will work out the way they're supposed to for YOU. In the meantime, find as much balance and joy as you possibly can in your life as it is right now.

    vaboy27 08/14/2018  4:48pm

    I agree with everyone else on here: it is a marathon, and it is going to take time. You are not alone in it, and one of the biggest lessons you learn is that hard work/talent does not always mean success. Find ways to be creative that bring you joy where you're not relying on someone else to chose you: a great acting class, a great dance class, meeting up with friends to read plays together. Remind yourself of what brings you joy in this field.

    zarina 08/14/2018  10:46pm