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  • Don't sing musical songs for musicals... 09/19/2018  11:59pm

    Anyone else sick of casting directors asking for non musical, only pop/ rock songs that are in the style of a musical without being a song from a musical... like com on, its hard enough to find a musical song in the style of a show, but when it is forbidden what are we supposed to do. Its like saying try out for this track meet, but we don't want to see you run, we will judge you by how much you can lift. Sorry I just needed to vent.

    ifeelimnotoutofbedyet

    I don’t see the big deal? We all listen to music other than musical theater, so find something you enjoy and sing that. They just want to hear straight tone and maybe a riff or two.

    Smactor 09/20/2018  10:38am

    I love when people come to “The Bitching Post” to post a gripe and immediately someone says to quit your bitching. ;) I hear you, OP. Pop songs are the worst.

    SuddenlySeeMore 09/20/2018  11:14am

    Here's the deal. I COMPLETELY agree. While I understand that it's a pop/rock musical, IT IS A MUSICAL! You're a musical theatre composer, not a top 20's composer. If you think about something like AMERICAN IDIOT, those kids sounded like musical theatre actors singing rock music. AND IT'S FINE! They sounded great in that show. At the end of the day it's still a musical and not a Taylor Swift concert. So YES I hate when they say that in the listings.

    sohoguy 09/20/2018  12:42pm

    Y'all need Sheri. If a show is pop/rock in style and it's obvious that the writers ARE pop/rock writers or at least borrowed from the pop/rock idiom, why WOULDN'T you sing that style? Pop/rock shows are just as stylized as, if not arguably more than, traditional musicals. I wouldn't go in for Kinky Boots or Wedding Singer with anything less than 80's pop and/or rock, it wouldn't do you any service to NOT to because that's literally what the music is...

    Showbizdreamer 09/20/2018  2:45pm

    But like not everyone needs to be good at pop/rock. That’s my wheelhouse and I like it. But if you don’t like it, don’t get in for it?

    Smactor 09/20/2018  2:48pm

    Unfortunately, when the tone of the show is set as "pop/rock" that's what they generally ask from everyone - at least at an EPA - even if the specific character you want to be seen for is SO MT. Happens to me a lot. See if you can find something that might be similar to that character's emotional voice that comes from a singer/songwriter like James Taylor, Carole King or someone whose pop/rock "voice" isn't as hard-edged screeching as an Iron Maiden song.

    Past Tense 09/20/2018  5:47pm

    ^^ Ah there's something to clarify. My Queen Sheri has said this MANY times throughout her years of teaching this. When pop/rock is asked for, all that means is use something "off the radio and not from a musical". Doesn't at all mean something hard edged, and "rocky" so to speak. Of course Carole isn't hard edged, she was very folksy/singer-songwritery. That show is 50-60's Motown/rock n roll. So find something from that era, off the radio. It's literally Carole's music, so it wouldn't make any sense to use any actual musical theater material (unless you're auditioning for Cynthia but that's another story).
    When I took a first lesson with Sheri, she gave me a Martha and the Vandellas song. And that song (really any song from that era) can be used for literally for any show that uses that era and music as an idiom. Beautiful, Memphis, Jersey Boys, Hairspray (YES HAIRSPRAY), etc.
    Same with other shows and eras. The more contemporary we get, the more super specific and divergent styles get as well, but over all I can use my contemporary pop and contemporary rock song for multiple "more modern" shows if I know how to gauge it for whatever specific show is at hand.
    I'm just passing on info that Sheri has passed on to me/many of her students that has blown our minds and made us all wonder why we thought this was hard in the first place.

    Showbizdreamer 09/21/2018  9:39am